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Between Two Beers Newsletter

We recently bumped into Sir Wayne Smith aka The Professor at Ignite ’25 Growth Summit by Icehouse where he shared some of his insights to a group of ambitious SME owners like ourselves.

After that interaction we thought, why not amplify some of that knowledge by re-releasing our episode with him! It’s one of our favourite-ever episodes – where we got the chance to look behind the curtain of a legendary career in sport.

From his All Blacks playing days, to winning 3 Rugby World Cups and 4 Super Rugby titles, Smithy discusses the ins and outs of it all, including:

  • Coaching men vs women

  • Why he was sacked as All Blacks coach

  • His toughest career moment in 2007

  • Fairy tale success with the Black Ferns

  • Rule changes he'd make to the game

  • His mindset, resilience, and legacy

First recorded in October 2023, we think it still plays now and we love introducing an old guest to new audiences!

ICYMI Phillip Mills

Last week we sat down with Phillip Mills, the founder and CEO of Les Mills International, and one of New Zealand's most successful businessmen.

He joined us to discuss how he helped turn his dad’s Kiwi gym into a global fitness empire. From $3 classes nearly 40 years ago to operating in over 100 countries and 20,000 gyms worldwide.

We heard about:

  • The business lessons that shaped his journey

  • How he saved Les Mills from liquidation

  • Why he’s now fighting for climate action

  • His daily habits at 70+ that keep him sharp

This is one of NZ’s most successful business stories of all time.

Our guests have some great stories to share. Hear them live at your next event with B2Bspeakers.co.nz to find out more.

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